Well Just Fine, that is your right to have your opinion. The scientific America article talks about how researchers have debunked that opinion but it is certainly your opinion, and I am sure that no one is going to change it.
Richard Oliver
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by Richard Oliver ini have been doing research on the arc as some people on here have suggested.
i find it interesting on the case file analysis some of the findings.
it looks like queensland and new south wales had the biggest problems with this.
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ARC Analysis Summary of Case Files
by Richard Oliver ini have been doing research on the arc as some people on here have suggested.
i find it interesting on the case file analysis some of the findings.
it looks like queensland and new south wales had the biggest problems with this.
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OK just fine. We have different opinions of active supervision. But it does not negate the numbers that the DoJ and others have found. Please explain away the numbers. -
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ARC Analysis Summary of Case Files
by Richard Oliver ini have been doing research on the arc as some people on here have suggested.
i find it interesting on the case file analysis some of the findings.
it looks like queensland and new south wales had the biggest problems with this.
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Registration is not the same as supervision. Registration is so that both the public and police, if needed, knows where the person lives. Parole or probation is active supervision of an individual. Active supervision, for example by a parole officer. They actively work with an individual to ensure that they do not violate a term of their release. That is why a person on parole can be sent back to jail immediately for a parole violation, without the due process that is afforded other people who is suspected of committing a crime. They can be detained as long as the law prescribes because technically they are still supposed to be in jail, but they were released early and are subject to the rules that are set out in their parole conditions. If a sex offender who has fulfilled their parole or probation is suspected of a crime they are still due the same due process that any other suspect and either has to be charged or released within a certain period of time.
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ARC Analysis Summary of Case Files
by Richard Oliver ini have been doing research on the arc as some people on here have suggested.
i find it interesting on the case file analysis some of the findings.
it looks like queensland and new south wales had the biggest problems with this.
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The average sentence imposed on the 9,700 sex offenders was 8 years and, on average, 3 1/2 years of those 8 years were actually served prior to release. The average sentence imposed on the 4,300 child molesters was approximately 7 years and, on average, child molesters were released after serving 3 of the 7 years.
https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/press/rsorp94pr.cfm
Parole or probation is only imposed on people who have not fully served out their time and is released early With the average of 4 to 4.5 years of early release, government supervision is only required for those years that remain on their sentence. Registration of a sex offender is not necessarily considered part of the parole or probation as, individuals who are released following serving their full term in prison is still required to register. They can be arrested for not following the registration requirement but they are no longer on parole and therefore cannot be sent back to jail for a parole violation.
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ARC Analysis Summary of Case Files
by Richard Oliver ini have been doing research on the arc as some people on here have suggested.
i find it interesting on the case file analysis some of the findings.
it looks like queensland and new south wales had the biggest problems with this.
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Sex crimes researchers R. Karl Hanson and Kelly E. Morton-Bourgon of Public Safety Canada conducted a large-scale meta-analysis (quantitative review) of recidivism rates among adult sex offenders. They found a rate of 14 percent over a period averaging five to six years. Recidivism rates increased over time, reaching 24 percent by 15 years. The figures are clearly out of alignment with the public’s more dire expectations.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/misunderstood-crimes/
Of the released sex offenders, 3.5 percent were reconvicted for a sex crime within the 3-year follow-up period, 24 percent were reconvicted for any new offense and 38.6 percent were returned to prison, either because they received another prison sentence or because of a parole violation.
https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/press/rsorp94pr.cfm
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ARC Analysis Summary of Case Files
by Richard Oliver ini have been doing research on the arc as some people on here have suggested.
i find it interesting on the case file analysis some of the findings.
it looks like queensland and new south wales had the biggest problems with this.
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Richard Oliver
dubstepped. And I gave you my opinion that there are elders who do stupid things but that is not the policy of Watchtower. I believe that they don't want anyone to prevent another person from reporting it, but does it does happen. But to think that a group of people will enact either a written or an unwritten rule to prevent someone from reporting a crime is insane. I have read on here so many times that people think that lawyers are running the organization because all they care about is the money. No first year law student would ever allow either a written or unwritten policy for something like this. Also my contention is it is not the responsibility to know what every member does and stop them from committing crimes. I also don't feel that they should be held liable for those crimes that someone else commits.
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ARC Analysis Summary of Case Files
by Richard Oliver ini have been doing research on the arc as some people on here have suggested.
i find it interesting on the case file analysis some of the findings.
it looks like queensland and new south wales had the biggest problems with this.
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Actually no Just Fine. The DOJ report says that 12-24% of all convicted sex offenders either still on some form of supervised release or not will reoffend.
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ARC Analysis Summary of Case Files
by Richard Oliver ini have been doing research on the arc as some people on here have suggested.
i find it interesting on the case file analysis some of the findings.
it looks like queensland and new south wales had the biggest problems with this.
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Richard Oliver
I am looking at it from in the world of the court of law and under law where technicalities is the only thing that matter. You can focus on the court of public opinion which you are correct it doesn't look good.
But in reality the courts can only deal with actual facts of the law and not people's opinions and statements.
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ARC Analysis Summary of Case Files
by Richard Oliver ini have been doing research on the arc as some people on here have suggested.
i find it interesting on the case file analysis some of the findings.
it looks like queensland and new south wales had the biggest problems with this.
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Richard Oliver
Outlaw:
I don't' think you have the mental ability to understand when I said present an instance, where I claimed a fact. Ray Franz thing is my opinion and you know that. As a fact that I have presented that is wrong.
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ARC Analysis Summary of Case Files
by Richard Oliver ini have been doing research on the arc as some people on here have suggested.
i find it interesting on the case file analysis some of the findings.
it looks like queensland and new south wales had the biggest problems with this.
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Richard Oliver
I don't believe that there is a policy to stop people from reporting to the police. Both in 1991, 1997 and 2008 in the publications of Watchtower it states that if a serious crime is committed by a witness against another witness, that the victim is able to report to secular authorities and that it would not be a part of the prohibition of taking one's brother to court. Were there elders who committed Clergy Malpractice, by encouraging people not to go to the police? I do believe that occurred. But that does not mean that it was a policy. Nowhere in all the documents, that many people here reference as such damning documents from Service, does it ever say that one can or should be punished for going to the police or that one should be discouraged from going to the police if they feel that they have been a victim of this type of crime. If there is an instance, please present it to me, again not how you can spin it or interpret a statement, but it actually saying that they should prevent someone from going to the police. I have never seen anyone from preventing another person from getting professional help from a professional mental health professional. The statements that have been made is that you want to be careful in the actual person that you select, but it never discouraged anyone from speaking with a professional. This is an anecdotal experience, but I suffered from deep depression while I was a witness and was encouraged by every elder and a number of COs to go and speak with a psychiatrist. Has other people experienced different things? I am sure that they have. But that doesn't make it a policy.